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Sage 300 ERP Desktops Through the Ages

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Introduction

With our upcoming 2014 version of Sage 300 ERP (to be released in 2013), one of the features is an improved look to our Windows Desktop Launcher. I thought it might be fun to do through a bit of history and review all the various Desktops we’ve included with Sage 300 ERP.

16-Bits

The first Windows version of Sage 300 was for the 16 Bit Windows 3.1 system. In these earlier versions of Windows, there was no ability to have folders in your lists of icons. Having nested folders of icons was a big feature of IBM’s OS/2 Desktop. IBM released this icon/folder system as a custom control for Windows. We took the IBM library and used it as a basis for our original desktop shown below:

desktop30

Here you could have folder (like Bank or Tax Services) which drilled down to further Windows. Basically using the innovative OS/2 technology of the day. Otherwise this desktop was implemented as a standard Windows MDI application written in C. This was the desktop used exclusively for versions 1.0A to 3.0A. It was also used for the 16-bit versions of 4.0A and 4.1A.

32-Bit

IBM never produced a 32-Bit version of their OS/2 control library for Windows. As a result we had to create a new desktop for our 32-Bit version, which we did using the Microsoft MFC framework. This is now in the age of Windows 95 where Microsoft now has nested icons and tree controls as introduced in the Windows 95 file explorer. These new controls are easy to use from MFC and we created a new desktop using these written in C++. This desktop has been included in all our versions since 4.0A. With 4.2A we dropped the 16-Bit version and this became our only desktop for a short while.

desktop32

The toolbar and status bar are standard MFC application features. The licensing pane is created by embedding an Internet Explorer ActiveX control.

The Web

With version 5 we introduced our first web version. This was based on building our UIs in VB6 and compiling them as ActiveX controls. We could then run them in an Internet Explorer window. The controls would downloaded and installed automatically and they would communicate back to the server using DCOM or .Net Remoting.

But now we needed a way to select and launch the UIs this way, so we created and ASP application to do this. This was our Web Desktop.

webdesktop

One feature of this desktop is that since we are now Web, we aren’t limited by the usual Windows icons sizes, so all the “icons” are actually 80×80 pixel bitmaps which look quite a bit better than on the standard Windows desktop.

Of course the previous 32-Bit desktop is still in the product for the majority of people that aren’t running web deployed. As it turns out this desktop was never used much because the majority of people that used our web deployment mode only used it from Sage CRM and as a result those UIs were run by CRM rather than our Web Desktop.

The Sage Desktop

Shortly after our acquisition by Sage there was a companywide initiative to standardize the desktop/launcher program across all Sage products. This was the Sage desktop.

sagedesktop

This desktop was written in C# as a standard .Net WinForms program. It included things like desktop notifications and news from Sage. Had a modern look and supported most things expected in the desktop. However Sage 300 ERP and CRE were really the only applications in Sage that adopted this and eventually development was discontinued. This desktop was included in versions 5.5A and 5.6A.

The Sage 300 Web Portal

With version 6.0A we introduced the new Web Portal which included data snapshots and a data inquiry tool in addition to the ability to launch screens.

oriondesktop

For more information on this Portal, have a look at this blog posting.

Updated Windows Desktop

With the forthcoming release of Sage 300 ERP 2014 we will be updating the standard Windows desktop that we introduced back in version 4.0A with an updated look. We have all new icons for both the programs and for the toolbar. Plus a new look for the toolbar.

desktop62

This gives the standard Sage 300 desktop an updated look. Especially by refreshing all those icons that have been in the product since version 1.0A.

Summary

A lot of attention gets spent on the Desktop/Launcher program since it is usually people’s first impression of running our program. Although most people do most of their work in a program like Order Entry, it’s still good to keep improving the Desktop. Looking back at the desktop’s you can see the influences of the various technologies that were popular at the time.

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Written by smist08

June 16, 2013 at 10:28 pm

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  1. […] Introduction With our upcoming 2014 version of Sage 300 ERP (to be released in 2013), one of the features is an improved look to our Windows Desktop Launcher. I thought it might be fun to do throug…  […]

  2. Good work stephen. While we all should thank you for the continued initiatives to improve Sage 300 ERP, the complete web version is what we are all waiting for.

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    Sundaresan

    June 17, 2013 at 4:48 am

    • Thank you for this most enjoyable walk down memory lane Stephen, we look forward to the new look desktop of Sage 300 ERP 2014.

      Mike Mills

      June 19, 2013 at 12:02 pm

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  7. Hi Stephen,

    Questions re: Sage 300 2012 and Windows 10

    Thank you for this blog – so many interesting articles. I tried to put this comment somewhere somewhat relevant.

    I have a rather mundane, but nevertheless important (to me anyway) question I wanted to know if you knew the answer to.

    I am currently running a sage 300 2012 deployment in a thin client environment. For many reasons, we have moved to a PC environment and we are running windows 10.

    I would like to install Sage 300 2012 on the Windows 10 boxes and run a client / server deployment. The compatibility guide for 2012 only reference Windows 8, but I am assuming it should work on Windows 10 as well?

    I haven’t seen this definitively anywhere, so thought I would ask what you know.

    Thank you again for your help! Hope all is well in Gibsons.

    BTW – I’m very new to AccPac sage, as we just became involved with the subject company, but so far, so good!

    Mike

    January 27, 2018 at 1:42 am

    • When Windows 10 released in 2015, Sage would have tested the current version of Sage 300 on it and verified that it was ok. They don’t do full regressions on older versions when new operating system versions release. We didn’t have to make any changes to Sage 300 as a result of Windows 10, so I’m pretty sure all versions of Sage 300 will work fine on it. That is unless some Windows update along the way broke something, but I’m not aware of anything like that.

      smist08

      January 27, 2018 at 3:21 am


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